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 Post subject: casino etiquette?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:30 am 
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Hi,

I'm hoping some of you can let me in on some general casino table etiquette.

I went to my first casino game and it went pretty well (I left with +$86). I was pretty damn nervous sitting down with some "vetrans". First hand I played, I picked my cards up off the table to look at them, and apparently flashed them to the dealer (beside me) and the guy sitting next to him :shock: :roll:. Oh, and knocking my stack of chips over. When I sat down I mentioned it was my first game and I probably wouldn't be sitting in long. So after 20 min. I won a big pot and said, "that's it, I'm done". I fumbled with my chips and stood up to cash out. I didn't tip the dealer or thank the other players, just kinda abandoned ship.

I kind of got the impression the other players weren't happy with me leaving so soon. Is that ok to do?

Any basic etiquette or unwritten rules of live play you can share with me?

Thanks,


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:04 am 
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It's your money, truth is you can do what you want.

But at the same time, you're not gonna make any friends by hitting and running a table like that. And if people don't like playing with you, it soon becomes uncomfortable to play with them. It's beter to have people like you and not mind losing to you.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:07 am 
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I usually try to make sure I have the time for at least a couple hours before I site down. My first time at the casino I think I won a $250ish pot and my hands were shaking as I "tried" to rack my chips. I couldn't do anything to stop it so I played it up like I was scared money and was new to the game! I think I played NL25 at the time online.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:12 am 
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Figure it this way. If the rest of the table is unhappy, then you've probably done pretty well. Your job is not to make them happy.

I used to shuffle chips and try to keep the action moving. Now I knock over chip stacks and always ask "how much is it?" I find I get called a lot more.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:12 am 
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Thanks for the replies,

I figured I wasn't too far in the wrong because when I sat down, I did say, "I probably won't be here for very long". Also, I am positive I have some huge tells and probably would have lost money if I had spent another 1/2 hour at the table.

As far as making a reputation for myself and playing the same people, that's not a problem for me. I'll maybe go to the casino again in a month or so. And next time I will not "hit and run".

In any case it was an exciting time and I look forward to going back to Casino Windsor.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:26 pm 
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Winning a big pot and immediately leaving is pretty rude. Some casinos here have a rule that winning players cannot leave until they have played at least one hour. Normally people are courteous enough to give the other players a chance to win some money back, but I guess they had to put that rule in place cause a lot of people were hitting and running. At least stay to finish out the free hands or something so it's not a complete hit and run.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:44 pm 
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No way. It's your money, leave when you want to. I can see that you might have to wait an hour before they'll seat you again, but if you say "you can't leave until you've played an hour," I call bullshit! I can leave with my money any damn time I want to.

That "give me a chance to win my money back" is a loser mantra.

Next time, do this. Get up, leave your money at the table, then go get something to eat, waste some time, do something else. Then go back in a half hour or more and pick up your money and go. If they haven't picked it up for you.

If they get mad that you took up a spot and were never there, just say "you should have let someone play over."

My point is SCREW THEM. Everyone is there for the same reason TO MAKE MONEY. You make it however you can. If it's a hit and run, hit it and run!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:07 pm 
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As for "hitting and running" my opinion is somewhere in the middle ground. If for whatever reason you wanted to make it a short session I see no problem with that. Announcing it upfront was courteous. I probably would have played out at least the rest of the orbit though. I'm suprised nobody addressed the "not tipping the dealer" part of your question. It's always a good idea to take care of them, especially in a hit and run like that. If you return, there's a good chance you'll see the same dealers and they are likely to remember you. I think a good relationship with dealers is a must.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:03 pm 
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DuggleBogey wrote:
No way. It's your money, leave when you want to. I can see that you might have to wait an hour before they'll seat you again, but if you say "you can't leave until you've played an hour," I call bullshit! I can leave with my money any damn time I want to.

That "give me a chance to win my money back" is a loser mantra.

Next time, do this. Get up, leave your money at the table, then go get something to eat, waste some time, do something else. Then go back in a half hour or more and pick up your money and go. If they haven't picked it up for you.

If they get mad that you took up a spot and were never there, just say "you should have let someone play over."

My point is SCREW THEM. Everyone is there for the same reason TO MAKE MONEY. You make it however you can. If it's a hit and run, hit it and run!


If you're playing online and some guy sits down, wins a huge pot off you, and then immediately sits out and leaves, you don't get pissed off? It's just an extremely rude thing to do.

Everybody is there to play poker, not make money, and especially in a live environment I think it's important to be courteous to the other players.

And yes, always tip your dealers!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:54 pm 
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DuggleBogey wrote:
I used to shuffle chips and try to keep the action moving. Now I knock over chip stacks and always ask "how much is it?" I find I get called a lot more.


Haha that is a really good idea actually... I should work that into my live game ;)


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 Post subject: How about this
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:46 am 
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I just had a thought about this last night. Would you find it acceptable if someone "hit and run" then left $10 or 15 in the pot for the next round? That would be courteous, no?

Thanks for the replies and input, much appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: How about this
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:27 pm 
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hoegaardenzo wrote:
I just had a thought about this last night. Would you find it acceptable if someone "hit and run" then left $10 or 15 in the pot for the next round? That would be courteous, no?

Thanks for the replies and input, much appreciated.


That's just silly.


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 Post subject: Re: How about this
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:07 pm 
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Kugr84 wrote:
hoegaardenzo wrote:
I just had a thought about this last night. Would you find it acceptable if someone "hit and run" then left $10 or 15 in the pot for the next round? That would be courteous, no?

Thanks for the replies and input, much appreciated.


That's just silly.


and its -EV. at least use it on a hooker! They need $ too.


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