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 Post subject: how bad did I play this?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:51 am 
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Opinions please

CO: $11.06
BTN: $2.10
SB: $5.97
Hero (BB): $4
UTG: $1.95

Pre-Flop: A:diamond: J:club: dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.13, Hero calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10, CO folds

Flop: ($0.65) 6:diamond: 8:spade: J:spade: (4 Players)
SB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, UTG raises to $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.50, UTG raises to $0.80, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($2.55) J:heart: (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($2.55) 3:heart: (2 Players)
Hero bets $0.80, UTG raises to $1 and is All-In, Hero calls $0.20

Results: $4.55 Pot ($0.20 Rake)
Hero mucked A:diamond: J:club: and LOST (-$1.95 NET)
UTG showed 8:diamond: 8:club: (a full house, Eights full of Jacks) and WON $4.35 (+$2.40 NET)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:46 am 
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I don't really like AJo that much here :shock:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:35 am 
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SB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, UTG raises to $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.50, UTG raises to $0.80, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.30

:shock:

I think pretty much everyone played this hand poorly but it ended up not really changing the outcome of the hand.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:08 pm 
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I think pretty much everyone played this hand poorly but it ended up not really changing the outcome of the hand.


ya, I generally play bad poker. What would you have done in this hand?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:30 am 
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If you are going to raise, then make a real raise. After that much money is in the pot you are not driving out any draws nor forcing anyone to define their hands.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:37 pm 
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was this some weird limit table where no one knows now to raise properly? I lose the same amount as you but just sooner.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:46 pm 
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riverrun27 wrote:
was this some weird limit table where no one knows now to raise properly? I lose the same amount as you but just sooner.


non-superuser acct :punch:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:51 pm 
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hoegaardenzo wrote:
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I think pretty much everyone played this hand poorly but it ended up not really changing the outcome of the hand.


ya, I generally play bad poker. What would you have done in this hand?


On the flop raise to $.50 or $.60 immediately and then decided what to do when the other guy pushes. At these stakes I'm probably stacking off with TPTK against a set all day long.

The call then small re-raise is just mind boggling.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:42 am 
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Try to get information from your opponents with your bets. Your bets don't tell you anything. Small bets and small raises that can be called with anything are good for nothing. Make your bets substantial and then you have a better chance at forcing your opponent to define his hand.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:50 am 
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Thank you for your posts. I will work on my raising, and report back with another HH.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:53 pm 
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Is this any better?

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $2.58
UTG+1: $3
MP1: $2.72
MP2: $3.33
CO: $6.80
BTN: $2.97
SB: $2.73
Hero (BB): $3.31

UTG+1 posts $0.02
Pre-Flop: A:spade: Q:club: dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to $0.12, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, CO calls $0.12, BTN folds, SB calls $0.11, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) 3:diamond: T:heart: Q:diamond: (5 Players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.30, CO folds

Turn: ($1.50) 6:heart: (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, UTG+1 calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60

River: ($3.30) 3:spade: (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG+1 folds, SB calls $0.70

Results: $4.70 Pot ($0.20 Rake)
SB showed Q:spade: Q:heart: (a full house, Queens full of Threes) and WON $4.50 (+$2.78 NET)
Hero showed A:spade: Q:club: (two pair, Queens and Threes) and LOST (-$1.72 NET)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:14 pm 
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Fold or Raise preflop with AQ in your position. You want to see a flop against as few opponents as possible.
Raise the flop. There are straight draws and flush draws that you want to chase out, as well as finding out how much SB likes his hand. TPTK is great heads-up, but not so great 5-way.
On the turn, your bet is too small to do anything but build a pot for whomever the winner will be, and again, it's likely not you. You still haven't forced out any drawing hands.
I actually don't mind the river bet if you're hoping to get called by a worse 2 pair.

Also, don't post the results. You want us to help with your decisions and not be influenced by the outcome (which is my cue to say, "WTF? Why didn't SB X-R the river instead of only calling?!)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:35 pm 
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Thanks for the help GoldBoar. I thought my bet on the turn would chase away a flush draw, but looking now I wasn't even close. Also, lol at the SB for not shoving on the river. I guess I did get some luck out of this hand.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:15 am 
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Here's another one for you. I left out the outcome this time. So would you fold or call on the river? Or do anything different in this hand?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from


MP1 ($2.98 )
MP2 ($1.04)
CO ($5)
Button ($0.84 )
Hero ($3.25)
BB ($2.48 )
UTG ($4.95)
UTG+1 ($3.78 )

Preflop: Hero is SB with A:club:, K:spade:.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.1, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.08, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.35) 6:club:, 4:club:, 2:spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: ($0.35) A:diamond: (3 players)
Hero bets $0.2, UTG+1 raises to $0.4, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.02, UTG+1 raises to $1.64, Hero calls $0.62.

River: ($3.63) 7:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $2.04 (All-In),


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:03 am 
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As played, and at this level, insta-call the river. You're getting 2:1 on your money and many of the hands the villian could have you beat. My guess would be a worse ace by the turn action - although he could have got lucky and hit his ace rag.

Bet the flop. You raised pre-flop so especially on this board you should try and continuation bet. It will also help you on later streets to better define your opponents hands (tough at these levels though).

On the turn, I probably shove to his min-raise. Your reraise isn't really enough to chase anything but a bluff away and if you raise anymore you're probably aren't getting away on the river.

The only concern for me is the consistent min-reraises (twice on the turn) from the villain. Has he been frequently using the min-raise? Or is he a donk trying to disguise a set? There's a small chance I fold the river depending on the answers to these questions.


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