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 Post subject: PokerStars rewards donk plays?
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 7:25 am 
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I was in a fpp satallite last night when this happened :?: The first hand i was not involved in. But the donk got rewarded :roll: second hand wipes me out, again lets reward the donk :roll:

donk= progamer17

me = jonjo68

PokerStars Game #28240031663: Tournament #163999512, 15FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/05/15 19:39:55 ET
Table '163999512 11' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: treepeeper (831 in chips)
Seat 2: progamer17 (3083 in chips)
Seat 3: inteligible (1065 in chips)
Seat 4: mundoniwet (3612 in chips)
Seat 5: noseopening (3246 in chips)
Seat 6: lindslay23 (2984 in chips)
Seat 7: jonjo68 (4025 in chips)
Seat 8: 10JQKAjohn (5015 in chips)
Seat 9: desdeel+alla (1980 in chips)
Seat 10: kiraset (4795 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
treepeeper: posts small blind 50
progamer17: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jonjo68 [8c Jc]
inteligible: folds
mundoniwet: folds
noseopening: folds
lindslay23: calls 100
jonjo68: folds
10JQKAjohn: raises 400 to 500
desdeel+alla: folds
treepeeper: folds
progamer17: raises 2583 to 3083 and is all-in
lindslay23: folds
10JQKAjohn: calls 2583
*** FLOP *** [6h Qs 9s]
*** TURN *** [6h Qs 9s] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [6h Qs 9s Td] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
progamer17: shows [2c 4s] (a pair of Deuces)
10JQKAjohn: shows [Jd Ad] (high card Ace)
progamer17 collected 6316 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6316 | Rake 0
Board [6h Qs 9s Td 2s]
Seat 1: treepeeper (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: progamer17 (big blind) showed [2c 4s] and won (6316) with a pair of Deuces
Seat 3: inteligible folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mundoniwet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: noseopening folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lindslay23 folded before Flop
Seat 7: jonjo68 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: 10JQKAjohn showed [Jd Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: desdeel+alla (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

this next hand wipes me out :roll:

PokerStars Game #28240135205: Tournament #163999512, 15FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/05/15 19:43:04 ET
Table '163999512 11' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: treepeeper (781 in chips)
Seat 2: progamer17 (6216 in chips)
Seat 4: mundoniwet (2397 in chips)
Seat 5: noseopening (2181 in chips)
Seat 6: lindslay23 (2284 in chips)
Seat 7: jonjo68 (4025 in chips)
Seat 8: 10JQKAjohn (3357 in chips)
Seat 9: desdeel+alla (1980 in chips)
Seat 10: kiraset (4095 in chips)
noseopening: posts small blind 75
lindslay23: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jonjo68 [Kc As]
noseopening said, "some sites never change....."
jonjo68: raises 450 to 600
10JQKAjohn: folds
desdeel+alla: folds
kiraset: folds
treepeeper: raises 181 to 781 and is all-in
progamer17: raises 2219 to 3000
mundoniwet: folds
noseopening: folds
lindslay23: calls 2134 and is all-in
jonjo68: raises 1025 to 4025 and is all-in
progamer17: calls 1025
desdeel+alla said, "que hermoso estupidoo"
*** FLOP *** [4d Kh Tc]
cha-nuxx is connected
*** TURN *** [4d Kh Tc] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [4d Kh Tc 3d] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jonjo68: shows [Kc As] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
progamer17: shows [5c 3c] (three of a kind, Threes)
progamer17 collected 3482 from side pot-2
lindslay23: shows [Ac 8c] (a pair of Threes)
progamer17 collected 4509 from side pot-1
treepeeper: shows [Jh Qh] (a pair of Threes)
progamer17 collected 3199 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11190 Main pot 3199. Side pot-1 4509. Side pot-2 3482. | Rake 0
Board [4d Kh Tc 3d 3s]
Seat 1: treepeeper showed [Jh Qh] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: progamer17 showed [5c 3c] and won (11190) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: mundoniwet (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: noseopening (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: lindslay23 (big blind) showed [Ac 8c] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: jonjo68 showed [Kc As] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 8: 10JQKAjohn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: desdeel+alla folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: kiraset folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I know this is only a frequent player point satallitte. please help i am really struggling with this :cry:
I have alot of hand historys from pokerstars, i am sure i could find alot more of these donk plays. Is this happening to you all?


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 10:10 am 
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The first hand he was making a pretty standard (if somewhat aggressive) re-steal and got lucky. He was 32% to win the hand.

The second hand he was 38% to win, which is marginally less than a coin flip.

Yes these people are bad, but they are getting their money in as a 2:1 dog almost. Long term they will be losing players, but in the short term anything could happen, it's variance.


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 9:56 pm 
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Kugr84 wrote:
The first hand he was making a pretty standard (if somewhat aggressive) re-steal and got lucky. He was 32% to win the hand.

The second hand he was 38% to win, which is marginally less than a coin flip.

Yes these people are bad, but they are getting their money in as a 2:1 dog almost. Long term they will be losing players, but in the short term anything could happen, it's variance.


Don't try to hide what we all know: pokerstars rewards the donks, its built into the programming. when you log in, after you join, and it downloads an update, what do you think that is???

its the donk rewarding patch!

simple solution: play like a donk and get your share of the rewards.

hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 12:24 pm 
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Play like a donk and win? That would explain a lot! :lol:


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Would also like to point out that it was a pretty terrible call by AJdd in the first hand anyway. So really Donk > Donk.


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 Post subject: Re: PokerStars rewards donk plays?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:26 pm 
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It's just variance plus donk play of other players. He won't be winning any tourneys soon if he keeps playing like that.


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 Post subject: Re: PokerStars rewards donk plays?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:47 pm 
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Hello
Happy Holidays!

I am unclear of what specific points are needed for the January Freerolls at
AP and UB.

At AP is it 100/500 AP "FAME" points or "Absolute" points needed to qualify?

At UB is it 100/500 UB "RAISE" points or "Ultimate" points needed to qualify?

IF they are Absolute/Ultimate points does it matter if the points were
accumulated during power hours where they accumulate at i think a 2 for 1 rate?

Likely a moot point for me this time around but the specifics may come
in handy for me in the future.

Thank you,


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