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 Post subject: KK big blind.
PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:42 pm 
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Game #18753824590 starts.
#Game No : 18753824590
***** Hand History for Game 18753824590 *****
$50 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 21, 23:06:23 EST 2009
Table 18753824 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: rodtidwell ( $43.71 USD )
Seat 2: scsu12 ( $57.97 USD )
Seat 3: ceo2008 ( $64.43 USD )
Seat 4: Krahsami ( $20 USD )
Seat 5: POKERYAL ( $21.50 USD )
Seat 6: Smellyrocks ( $95.30 USD )
Seat 8: Movieaholic ( $19 USD )
Seat 9: Mets09WS ( $32.05 USD )
Movieaholic posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Mets09WS posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Krahsami posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
POKERYAL posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mets09WS [Kc Kh]
rodtidwell calls [$0.50 USD]
ceo2008 raises [$3.25 USD]
Krahsami folds
POKERYAL folds
Smellyrocks folds
Movieaholic folds
Mets09WS raises [$5.50 USD]
rodtidwell calls [$5.50 USD]
ceo2008 is all-In [$61.18 USD]
Mets09WS folds
rodtidwell folds
ceo2008 shows [ Jc, Js ]
ceo2008 shows [ Jc, Js ]
ceo2008 wins $77.68 USD

I thought i made the right poker decision. Second under the gun with a big stack put in a good opening raise at .25/.50 NL stakes, but since i had KK i wasn't biting.

I min re-raise him cause i wanted to make him pay, and not scare him off. But he came back and re-raised all in. That's when i thought he had AA and folded.

Is there anything i could have done differently?


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:32 pm 
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It depends on your opponents table image but 99% of the time at NL 50, infact any limit I am insta calling.

If he had Aces then he wouldn't have shoved (if he was any good) as he would be wanting to extract the most possible out of you.

Don't worry about it though. Just use the notes function and type in exactly what happened so next time you can take all his chips :)


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 Post subject: Re: KK big blind.
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:17 pm 
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BAMJ6 wrote:
Carbon Poker IB promotion.

Game #18753824590 starts.
#Game No : 18753824590
***** Hand History for Game 18753824590 *****
$50 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 21, 23:06:23 EST 2009
Table 18753824 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: rodtidwell ( $43.71 USD )
Seat 2: scsu12 ( $57.97 USD )
Seat 3: ceo2008 ( $64.43 USD )
Seat 4: Krahsami ( $20 USD )
Seat 5: POKERYAL ( $21.50 USD )
Seat 6: Smellyrocks ( $95.30 USD )
Seat 8: Movieaholic ( $19 USD )
Seat 9: Mets09WS ( $32.05 USD )
Movieaholic posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Mets09WS posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
Krahsami posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
POKERYAL posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Mets09WS [Kc Kh]
rodtidwell calls [$0.50 USD]
ceo2008 raises [$3.25 USD]
Krahsami folds
POKERYAL folds
Smellyrocks folds
Movieaholic folds
Mets09WS raises [$5.50 USD]
rodtidwell calls [$5.50 USD]
ceo2008 is all-In [$61.18 USD]
Mets09WS folds
rodtidwell folds
ceo2008 shows [ Jc, Js ]
ceo2008 shows [ Jc, Js ]
ceo2008 wins $77.68 USD

I thought i made the right poker decision. Second under the gun with a big stack put in a good opening raise at .25/.50 NL stakes, but since i had KK i wasn't biting.

I min re-raise him cause i wanted to make him pay, and not scare him off. But he came back and re-raised all in. That's when i thought he had AA and folded.

Is there anything i could have done differently?


folding KK in this spot is so bad that you will one day laugh about it thinking back on how bad you used to be. this is not a big laydown, it is a big waste of an almost certain best hand.

Please explain why, beyond his all in bet, you thought he had AA.

His all in bet is screamin AK or 99-QQ.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:21 pm 
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Min-raising is rarely a good move. You are giving your opponents perfect odds to call with marginal hands which you would most likely stack off to with an overpair.

Folding KK pre-flop is also a bad move. There is literally only one hand that has you beat. The only time I would ever fold to an overbet shove like that is if the guy has been on the table for 3 hours and hasn't raised a single time.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:53 pm 
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go back in time and fistpump instacall please. Never fold KK preflop at NL50. Ever.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:35 pm 
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Never fold KK pre-flop at small stakes. Also, you need to make a real raise pre-flop.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:24 am 
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I don't think any player with AA would re-raise all in... the story just doesn't add up. Why would he risk pushing any smaller pair out of the pot? If he did have AA and he made a considerable size raise with you calling... he would have to assume that you have min JJ-KK. If you hit your trips on the flop there is a good chance that you'd stack up.

Watch out for the obvious overbet... I think most decent players would play AA less aggressively (than shoving all in) in order to maximise profits.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:30 am 
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Kugr84 wrote:
Min-raising is rarely a good move. You are giving your opponents perfect odds to call with marginal hands which you would most likely stack off to with an overpair.


I have to agree... I hate min-raising, especially in lower limit games. With decent hands you really need to make sure suited connectors and hands like A5os fold. I've seen many large pairs (1010-kk) go down to Ax in low limit poker. Even worse is seeing AcAh go down to 2c 4c (in the bb). I saw this happen last week, the guy holding the bullets filled up the small blind to see the flop. Having top pair and Nut Flush draw (flop 6c 8c jc) equalled losing most of his stack when the BB went all in :D and didn't catch the flush.


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 Post subject: Re: KK big blind.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:00 pm 
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You should've called his shove. It was kind of obvious he was just trying to scare you off. Don't worry about it though. Chalk it up to experience.


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