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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:18 am 
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Home tourney, 10 people left. Average stack about $11-12,000. Blinds 300-600. My stack is $5500, villian about $15,000

Hero is on button with Ah-10h. Villian is drunk but capable of laying down hands when pressured. Is limping in often.

Villian limps 3 spots from button. Everyone else folds to me. I shove all-in since there is 1500 sitting on the table, which is large percentage of my stack. This means it will cost him $4900 to call a $7000 pot. Blinds are loose and I don't want them to see flop if possible. They fold.

Villian talks out loud of how he knows he is beat, holds his cards in the air. Looks like he will fold. Player to his right says, "go ahead and call, flop some lucky cards and knock him out of the tourney".

Almost immediately then villian calls. Turns over Kh-3h. Flop 9,J,Q rainbow. Only card he can win on is a 3, because a K gives me a straight. Of course the 3 rivers and I walk. Inwardly steamed, but I graciously shake hands.

Question? Villian was obviously goaded into his call by a player not in the hand. What would happen if this were a WPT tourney? Is this behvior accepted or am I making much of nothing?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:32 pm 
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In a casino the player who told him to call would most likely only receive a verbal warning as long as it was the first time this occurred. If he had talked about a hand in progress before he would most likely receive a time out.

If the drunk guy lifted his cards and showed his hand in a casino, his hand would probably be declared dead. It's possible that he would only be given a warning if he hadn't been doing it before, but the actual rule states that it is a dead hand if it is exposed.

This is basically a case of collusion and you definitely should have warned the other guy not to talk about the hand in progress and warned the drunk guy to not show his cards.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:39 pm 
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Kug's right.

If he exposed his cards to a player that has additional info (another player who has folded cards) his hand should be declared dead because he received the benefit of that info.

But since this is a home game, just take your bad beat like a man, and tell the player with the big mouth to shut the eff up next time.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:58 pm 
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Thanks guys. There was a fair amount of cash to win in this tourney. Take it like a man I did though. See ya at the tables!


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